I sat down with family friend Bredren Fagan to hear what prison did to him and who paid for those choices on the outside. He describes prison as both a place of structure and a place that breaks people, and he focuses on the unseen labour carried out by mothers, partners and carers while men serve sentences.
Prison as an unexpected school and community
Bredren describes his first spells inside as shockingly ordered but socially intense: dorms, gym, library and work gave him education he felt he had missed at school. He says prison put him with people from all over London and that he learned trades, routine and toughness there — the environment “fit like a glove”, he told us, because the structure matched what he was comfortable with (gym, work, dorm living and regimented days).
He stressed that this experience was not universal: some newcomers were vulnerable to bullying, self-harm and mental decline. For him, the community on the wings and the discipline of certain prisons gave him a kind of belonging, but he repeatedly warned that prison is not universally rehabilitative and that confinement affects individuals very differently.
The unseen work: who carries the pain outside
Bredren returned again and again to the labour done by women and family while men were detained. He credits his mother and the woman who later became the mother of his children with never missing visits and with holding households together — a commitment he calls extraordinary and deserving of “maximum respect.”
He also described the loneliness inside and the way absence damages relationships: partners who stay have to shoulder childcare, bills and the emotional weight of a partner in and out of prison. Bredren said he recognised the selfish comfort he had enjoyed while inside and that the real hardship was outside, for the mums, partners and children who were left to carry the consequences.
Taking responsibility and seeing the damage
He refused to hide behind system-blaming alone. Bredren said responsibility for the damage caused by offending was “all responsibility” — time lost with children, the emotional gaps, and the long-term effects on family life. He acknowledged that some parts of his record and choices were wrong by the law and that those choices had been costly.
At the same time he admitted he would not undo everything, because changing too much would erase relationships that followed from the life he led. He speaks plainly about the trade-offs: financial provision from some offences did not compensate for the time and emotional absence, and later attempts to make up for that distance can feel like “cheating” the family.
A blunt message to younger people and the next generation
When asked about the violence that blights younger people now, Bredren gave a stark warning: don't confuse film or games with reality. He said taking a life has consequences that destroy families and generations, and he urged young men to think before they act. At one point he even suggested channeling aggression into the army rather than street violence — a brusque way of saying there are lawful outlets for discipline and risk.
He described the repeating pattern of boys sentenced young who end up repeating the same behaviour inside prison, and he pleaded for reflection: know the cost to families, and understand that the next generation depends on the choices you make now. The interview ends with the point that the stories he tells are only the tip of a much larger problem.
Adapted from this guest conversation with AI assistance. Each person’s experiences remain their own. The video is the original conversation.
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Yeah, welcome to Legion's Work. Yeah, today I've got my good family friend, Bredren Fagan. Yes, respect to you. Hi, my name's Tony, Rough Diamond Records. I'm a pal for many years. Legion of Legion's Work. Yes, what are you saying today? Well, that's the first question. You've been through numerous prison sentences. What have you seen inside that the public needs to know? What have I seen inside that the public needs to know? From my experience, yeah, this is my experience, yeah. From being in prison earlier, and when I say prison, because it's mine, because whenever I went to prison, remember I went through farm and that, and to me, prison, my experience of prison, what the public might know, it depends on the individual itself, innit? So, can you, have you got any more to that question, or is that just simple? What do you mean? Explain it to me. The public doesn't understand what has prison really done to the men you've known. Oh, right, so individually now. So yeah, me, when I went into prison, for me, it was like going to another school. Remember, I didn't really do the college thing and that, but anyway, to go to school, and remember, I know, because it's changed now as well, innit? So, what it's done to me and others, and we've got to be, if I'm going to dwell into, for me personally, because I'm going to talk about me, what it's done for me, from the first time I went in, and my friend came in the other day and he said something, and he called me, he said, right, he wanted to go to get some extra stripe on his back, yeah? For me, it wasn't nothing like that. I didn't, from I went into there for the first two days, I didn't want to be in there. Yeah, 100%, but then I started, remember, you had gym, and then from those things, I was, I kind of learnt, see what I didn't learn in school, I've done little bits in school, I've got, I've done it all in prison, and it was like, for me, it was like, yeah, it was like going to a youth centre, but not going home. So, I could do pool, not that I didn't do little, because remember, I grew up in, I'm 1980, so I've done all the youth centres on the road as well, so we'd go over the areas to different youth centres. So, for me to go into prison and then meet a million people from all over London, do you understand what I'm saying? And just why I'm on this point, because it's like, what the public don't know, well, what the public don't know, I met a lot of good friends in prison, yeah, and until today, we've got a good relationship, so why I'm on that little public point, so yeah, so, and then, in them days, I was doing farming, I don't know if people know, in farming, you used to have double cells, single cells, but you used to have four man dorms as well, so you could share with four people, yeah? So, that alone for me was, wow, yeah, obviously, I was in a cell with four people, different areas, you know what I mean? And remember, them days, there's no TVs, so we'd be talking, and then, so I built a lot of friendship, remember, what the public might not see as well, why I'm on that point, is not everyone takes to confinement like that, bear in mind, my first time was in a single cell then, for instance, and then it's doubles and that, and it's how you
I missed the people around you. Do you understand what I'm trying to say to you? And that's the yearning for the company. But for me, once again, remember, 100%, I've got loads of influences, you know, loads and loads and loads and loads of influence growing up there. But I don't know if I've related this. Let me put it on, it goes on my back to Britain. I find it all right, yeah. And then it was four-man dorms and it was like gym, library orderly. I've been white, blind and felt, and where you can just walk around wing after wing and meeting people once again. And then you've got the challenge inside. Remember, in my head, remember, I'm Wolfenstein, I might think, I'm just saying I might think I'm somebody else and this is where the public might not see. So the challenge inside is you're going to get a lot of characters from different areas and in their head, they're like, do you understand? So me, well, yeah, the man, whatever they want to be, but I fitted it like a glove, unfortunately. Like, prison to me fit like a glove. I wasn't scared. There wasn't no one in there that I was going to ever be. Listen, I respect every superman out there, but I was on the landing with all the best of them in it. So it taught me to be strong. Let me answer your question. It taught me to be strong. I wasn't scared before I went in prison. And if I was going to be scared, I was scared for the first two days where it was a bit quiet in there and boom, boom, boom. Do you understand the little things I might be trying to do and not knowing if I'm scared of anyone? I might be scared of officers opening my door for any other reason. What the public don't see, because if you go into a farm from 96, 97, 98, 99, I don't know the record, but I know my door's been opened numerous times for people that are next door neighbours, tried to kill themselves, hang themselves, self-harm was serious. And then the bullying, the bullying's real. If you're vulnerable, farm was a place, yeah, you might be bullied. So what the public's not seeing, these kids are coming in. Remember, we've all done something wrong to be innocent. Some of us might be innocent, do you understand, because it's raw. But what I learnt in prison is it's definitely not for everyone. And it's not for me as well, do you understand, depending on the duration, time and how long you're doing it. And then if I see what it's done to a lot of people I've grown with, come on, man, I've got prejudice, unfortunately, they're in an asylum, mental health institution, where they came in all right, but they had energy, but not energy to sit still. You know, like they needed to be moving. And not everyone can sit in a room all day. And it doesn't matter what you say. Remember, even then, let me not correct it, them days it was very organised. Remember, organised to the same, remember, it was on time, innit? You know you're gonna go gym, you know you've got to go education, you've got to go library, you have to go library. Library's like being on base, you might as well stay on basic if you can't go library. Do you understand? Today, they're implementing students, importing, and you've got to have library books, even in library, even if you missed in the daytime, there were a chance, or if you come from work, you missed library, I'll take you down to the library. Officers might even give you a play and take you to the library. Anyway, let me not stop. So that was my experience. Listen, for me, it was a good, it wasn't a great,
It worked for me, for some reason. Maybe I'm lonely and I was looking for company from outside, but I don't think it was that. I don't know, I just think it was a youth and I never went home. Did it strengthen you? Did it strengthen you? Of course. To make you a stronger person? 100% that little time and then I realised, once that came, I came again and then I went into another establishment, like Dover. I'm going to get to these just two, because they're like six man dorms. So then you meet six people and that job was like working. You do concrete, builders, neturism. You build a little family, it's like going to the army. And that's real. My probation officer in the army was like, come and see me in 1999, 100% there, Michael Johnson. He said, yeah, Lee. And I was considering it. That's the sort of level of person I am and I considered it because I'm built for regiment. I'm fortunate. And I'm going to quickly go there, sorry, because you know I don't care. Catholic school, remember, anyone who went to St. Patrick's, naughty, stand in the corner, put your hands on your head. Remember, that's from young. I don't want to hear it. So my dad was on that little way about him, remember I said? And then to me, to come into this, this was easy for me still. And then there's a structure, and I love structure. So the structure I got from Dover prison was... Remember I was in Dover riots? So no, anyone who's in Dover, respect the whole of that time there. Because as I said, I've done about two years in Dover. Oh no, I've done 18 months in Dover. So 18 months, I think I've done six months in a dorm. Six months in a dorm with six guys. So do you remember? That's prison. Six men in a cell. Supermen from North, South, East, West, boom, boom, boom, yeah? And we had the best time ever. Do you understand what I'm saying to you? And as I said again, what the public won't see, that I never see, is when I first walked into prison, I thought I was in a world of... I didn't even know this world could exist. Do you understand that? So many people in this place, that is mad. No, there's a lot of people in here. Do you understand what I'm saying to you? And then bam, so that side of it, what the public don't see, them days, it's like, I don't know, vulnerability they're not going to see because people might put on a show. They might not see that. You might visit your kids and they might come across coming on hard phone calls. I don't know. Do you know what it is? On a selfish one, I can't tell you. I've always been all right in the prison system. But I know that not everyone is all right. I've seen scenarios, do you understand, where people go through vulnerabilities and that's not nice in no scenario, especially if you're not at home and then you've got people that really... Because remember, I've gone with everyone in prison. It sounds great, yeah, yeah. I'm actually community prison. Sweet. Do you understand? Because, no, it's nice to be nice, isn't it? And bear in mind, we're in here for being... We might not have been nice while we're coming here, isn't it? So it's nice to be nice, isn't it? And I'm not going to try and party up. Like, I wasn't naughty up until 21. Do you understand? And then it's big man prisons and then there's a different scenario about that. Do you understand? But I don't want to... Yeah, yeah, it's not nice in there, is it, man? I remember the bang up, man. I remember if I'm looking at the little bit of today's world... Well, I think some of them kids, man. That bang up's real, bro.
If you can't live there, it's a lot of bang up now, isn't it? It's 24 hours sitting in the room, and it's not nice. And remember, I've got to be careful what I say on here. Not careful, but it's a system built for someone. So, let me not dwell too much into it. Is everything to answer you in the best way possible? That's perfect. While you were inside, who was carrying the pain outside? And what did our choices do to our children, partners and mothers? There you go. That is the prison. That is what I'm saying. That's more painful. That's the pain, isn't it? The work they put in, yeah? The work they're putting in, remember. Come on. So, early years, my mum was doing all the work. As I said to you, remember, for me, it was comfortable, wasn't it? It was selfishly comfortable. But I've always understood, and I won't. It might not seem like that, but I've always understood the work is outside. Like, how that person deals with me inside is amazing, and I respect that to the T. Remember, we might not show it, because we've been, unfortunately, prolific in what we've been doing, innit? Are we chasing? What are we chasing, anyway? But let me not go too far from the question. Individually, yeah? Remember, individually, I was blessed. And I have to say that, because if it's talking about the looking after, and what you said about how people don't see it, I think the love you get shown in prison and not getting left out is a massive to how you can handle prison as well. And I remember, because I've seen my brother, I'm not getting into it with your jumper. Yeah, that I can imagine the mums, like, it's heartbreaking, innit? Son's in prison and all that. But my mum said, I want to talk individually for me. My older brother went to prison first, so my mum kind of done it with him. Then I went in, I kind of knew, and my mum was good for me. So, as much as I went through children, mum and that, and let's say, not stepping up, but yeah, my mum never missed a visit. So, in the later years, when I was, no, she was always me. My mum must be mum, but she never missed a visit. And then later on in life, not even later, 99, my mum, 98, 99, yeah, I met a superwoman. In my heart, remember, this is my opinion of the woman, innit? She was a superwoman to me, innit? She went on to do that, and looking back now, I remember I say, rah, that was like madness. Yeah, because it was real from me to her, innit? Do you understand? That was my girl, innit? No, my mum, my mum done that. I didn't have children then, but the same woman that had my children, that went on to have my children, yeah, she done every single bird from two, five, like, remember, she give me kids and then I, remember, to be fair, it's real, I'm going to give it to her now, because sometimes it's like, rah, you're doing it, just be real. I rate them more than, remember, my job was easy. Go in there, sit in my shop.
Train, eat, sleep, help, work, sleep, bam, bam, and everything's getting done for me. Individually, remember I'm talking about me, because I'm going to sit in a room, what? Nah, it's mad now anyway. I'm not talking about prison now, but I'm saying for the coaches, to get dressed in the mornings, just the whole bollocks of me ringing her every, because I don't ring her that much anyway on the road. So when my dad and my daughter, bam, bam, bam, and my wife's real, the love's real, I'm not tricking her, but if I'm going to be real, I'm doing something wrong in it, because even when I'm coming out, I love the whole thing in it, but that side I've been going it for long, and it's like, bruh, how can I have that, like, wife, kids, one son, sorry, my son was born when I was in jail, sadly, but them other two permanent, but I'm saying for the woman, that thing's crazy, and I'm not even knocking the ones that didn't stay, because they might have chose the right option, I don't know in it, but for me, I was fucking, like, hands on heart, and another thing I want to point out, I don't really give a fuck, sorry for my language, I don't care, well, I'm an individual, you know, so I've got no obligation to you, because I'm an individual, doesn't matter, I can love you, but if I'm loving you, I can't be leaving you, so for them to hold on and look up, and 100% the love, well, hopefully, their thing is completely different, and once again, I might have argued from that cell and said all the things, sometimes a bit harsh, or maybe even, like, demands, yeah, it could be selfish, yeah, but I'm never, and I don't care who's out there, don't ever, because I know it works, you're together, it's a lifestyle, I know how it works, it's a lifestyle, cool, they meet you as a lifestyle, hear me out, like, choices you might have made, but love is free, let's get that straight, and I've met people with not a penny, so love is free, and I ain't got a penny anyway, so it's all the same, but love is free, yeah, so what they've got to do, remember, for me, it was different, so to women, and all the women, because I've seen loads of them turning up every day, remember, some out there, maximum respect, maximum respect, so they're doing bad, that is real prison, because coming outside ain't hard, that's why you get a lot of people come out, and back to your question before, come on, look how many of my pals didn't make it, literally, mentally, you've lost your girl, you've lost things, you've lost kids, remember, kids ain't entertaining you, but let me not kill you with it, yeah, the women, the mums, and that's for the kids, like, come on, man, that's every man who's been behind the door, innit, it's horrible, the wife, women, all the women, baby mothers, wives, all them, like the boy, baby mother, anyway, I said I don't like the woman that had my kids, that's the woman that's had my kids, the baby mother thing, that really makes sense to me, because she's the woman that's had my kids, that's it, I don't know, she's always going to have the kids, so that woman's got my kids, yeah, so she's the kid's mum, yeah, everyone in prison, that's the killer, innit, the wife, the kids, mummy, sad as well, but, you know what I mean?
When we get to certain ages, and I'm a bit soft like that, mummy needs to take a breather still. I'm past 21, where I'm calling mummy now, sorry. But it's raw. No, but for real, all the mums, dads as well. My dad said, listen, because he never entertained it. I think he might have popped in once. He's morals and all that. Which I respect his decision from early. But yeah, the women that looked after me, and as I said again, the kids' mums, super respect. All the women out there. Care for the women that job done, but stayed in touch. To the men that are doing super sentences. Because sometimes, you know what, there's no right or wrong in writing. But yeah, back to your questions. I don't go mad again, because I do that a lot. The women get the credit. The prison's outside. We're suffering. We talk about brotherhood and loyalty. But when prison doors close, who really there for you? Well, we answered the question before. Because me, for me, the women and the mums, the women dealt with me. Never let me down. 100%. So I have to give credit for myself. My bredrins as well. Remember I came from a super team as well, innit? I remember my age in it as well. I haven't really discussed all that around my... But I came from a super low team as well, innit? In our time, you know. Everything was in time. So what man done for me in that time, they done for me as well. So don't ever think that prison, my bredrins stormed me. And when I mean stormed me, miss me, check me. That's it. They was always there for me. Likewise, innit? So for me again, we had our trip. When it mattered. When we was entertaining each other, innit? But as I said again, I went on to have other people, kids. And to be fair, there's only one person I really want to see anyway in them scenarios. And that person wanted to see me. So I was blessed like that. But yeah, I've never... In that side of time, I respect everyone that's been around me growing up. And remember, when it's time, when it's that time, it's that time, innit? We're growing, innit? So we part in it. But when I've been doing that time, when me and you... You understand, for instance? They never dropped me out still. So my experience with law is prison, we done work. Because you've got to do it, you've got to do it, innit? Remember, you're still outside, I'm inside. And as I said again, the difficult thing is outside. Yeah, you've got a lot of men inside. What I would do if I was outside? I've heard that before. It doesn't work like that. Yeah, respectfully, it don't work like that. It's not easy, man. Come on, man, remember? And that's that side there. So as for law, my thing is, do what you've got to do, bro. That's it, man. Just do what's you, innit? You understand? So, yeah, I respect, man. And I've been low anyway. I hope I have anyway. So that's me. I'll play that game to the full 100. But prison is just... It's a war between a war between a war. It's there to destroy and break, yeah? But hopefully, we get through and we change the little things. You understand? Yeah, that's it. Yeah, I've had law before. We've blamed circumstances, the system, and other people. But where were we wrong? What responsibilities do we have for damage we've caused? Well, it's the way I had to think. Remember, I can be silly. Not silly, no. I'm going to be real. I've read a million books. I looked at the system.
So I've never, remember, this is important because I've got friends like that. They're systematic, like the system, the police, the, like every single thing is someone else's fault, you know, through trauma. They're fighting an excuse behind it. But listen, there's no, everything's order in it. I was even talking to my daughter a couple of days ago about this, like, law, order, what's right and what's wrong and how we see things. Remember, I might be in a percentage, even my friend was on there talking the other day trying to be, I know what he was saying. I wasn't getting onto it because I see what he was trying to say, how he sees it. And what made it worse, I see it the same as him. I just thought I might not deliver it like him. I didn't understand it either. So when I look at the system, I just walk, I struggle to work my little condition, whatever that is. I don't know. Obviously I worked. And I'm in process. I'm working. So, but I just struggle with the system. So from the first time they put me in there, I said, this fitted me like a glove. And then you've got me training in there. You've got me getting hench. I mean, you've got me doing all sorts in this place. And I'm thinking, wow, this is amazing. And remember, I'm getting everything given to me, which was for me, sweet. And then the love and emotion when I was early, obviously as you get older, you start working out with the kids. What's the question again? Sorry, brother. Sorry, guys. What responsibilities do we have for the damage we've caused? All responsibility. And you know what? For me, for me, individually, the time, the fucking time, bro. See, if I could go back a million percent, I would not change a thing. And what I'm saying, remember, I have to change some. If I change a lot, that means I change the woman that looked after me through all my sentences. The one that gave me my three beautiful kids. Remember, so I can't be clever and change too much. Do you understand? Because if I change it, I might not have all these things. Do you understand? And I'm happy to... The only thing, for me, I would have changed a bit. I wouldn't change too much because the system's the system. And because I went to these regimented, Pat Catholic school, and everyone's got some control and some order. I realise we're in a systematic situation. And even when I went in there first, I realised, wow, there's a lot of people. Remember, I said it's like a college in a college in a college, isn't it? So this is things. So what we're doing... What am I talking about? Responsibility. What to the others? Yeah, the damage we caused. Super damaging. It's the time, isn't it? When I look at my kids, man, I know there's things missing that what their mum's got. Even though I might put it in financially or not financially, the time. I couldn't... Do you understand? And for me, it's because I kind of wanted my kids to understand, try and understand me and not me understanding them. But remember where I've come from. So I didn't have all that. And remember, I had my mum and all these... Do you understand? So even the love I've got, remember I said I didn't understand it. I see people not getting visits. I see people not... And I was getting it all. And I just couldn't understand it. And the woman goes out, I'll get a sentence and another sentence. And I'll be saying to her, listen, this is my last time. I swear to God, I'm not going to do this again. Boom, boom, boom. I was attracted to the reddies, like literally. And I was thinking, even this money is not even making me happy.
Because I'm willing to have it and then everyone else might enjoy it and I'll sit in my room on whatever's available, you know what I'm trying to say? So that was, I don't know, so the system, I would always teach different. So I'm not going to come here and tell you too much. I don't blame the system. I just know I made choices that in the law of the land, 99% of people, it's wrong. So I can't be promoting in my head saying, justifying it through. It's just trying to want more and more in it. So what the effect I've had on my kids is massive. But at the same time, my kids haven't been through this. Thank God I know what two doors in the sun, God willing. You know what I'm trying to say? And they're on the path that I would have liked to have been on. You understand? So the damage we cause is mad, even with the women. Because you even get that back. Like if you're with someone and you're there, everything, and then you're gone. And then you're there and you've got, even for me, I still have that same, you understand? I've become so solo and so on my own self that I'm not even showing the emotional side to them. Because I haven't had it. And it's not like, you're doing little cuddles and things that you don't do. And I've never done it. And even if I look at my kids now in China, it's like they know the love one million. But dad, you're not that emotional. So to do it later is like you're cheating. You're faking the whole thing. You understand? So yeah, man, we destroy it, man. You know what happens. When you're in them situations, you're destroying them. The next generation, the next generation. Do as I say, don't do as I'm doing it. But it doesn't work like that, innit? Because they see, they see, and they think, right. As my brother was saying, I was trying to guide my ladies. My generation, if I'm going to be real, messed it up from my dad's generation. Because we didn't fall in line. Yes. Because they worked. They all grafted. That is a serious point you just made there. Yeah, man, we fucked it up, man. My generation made the path for your generation. Yeah. And the one after has messed it up. Yeah, we went mad on it. We went crazy. We actually went crazy still. All right. The next generation. Young people are dying on our streets in 2026. Are men from our generation partly responsible for what they're copying? What must we tell them before it's too late? You know what? As I said, we know people going for it. I know people going for it. They need to know. This is what I'll be saying to them. Just like you remember we talked to our kids in there. This is what I tell my kids every day. Just do this one little bit of maths. Number one, you might know someone. Cool. Forget this is how I see it. So if they can think how I think. My record speaks for itself. So I don't entertain all that. I know people that live it.
Breathe it or did live it, breathe it. And I would try and tell them, that's love. It is the biggest move. That is a lot. No, we're not killers. Listen, forget the movies. The movies. That's why it's called the movies. That's why I never play Call of Duty and all them silly games. People start getting confused between a fucking computer game and reality. The reality is, you kill someone, and I'll tell you why. If you know my record, it's not that great. Because I've been in and out of the system. If you ask me my biggest sentence, it's not that big. If you ask me if I've done a year, two years, two years, three years, two years, blah, blah, blah. But I've always been out. Some people look at me like, right. As my brother said to me the other day, in and out, nothing but. Yes. Listen, I'll wear what I've done in it. So I understand. But then I'm going to teach the kids. See that move. It's a design move. Remember, I know the law. So we're not going to discuss that today. Now, if you do do that, you're crazy anyway. Watch this. I'll tell you why you're crazy. Because you've, man, that you don't care about. Obviously you don't care about it. So if you don't care about it, why would you need to kill it? Because I'll tell you the problem now is you have to care about him now. Because unfortunately, you've put his whole family through misery, which is disgusting. You can't justify it anyway. But then you have to sit in your room for, what's the range? What do they do now when they're young? 20 years? 22 years for someone that you don't like. Think about it. Even if we were in school, like the girl don't like me. Why do you want to go have a girl that don't want to be with you anyway, for instance? So why would I kill someone? Because it's hard to talk to them because I've talked to a lot of them in prison. And I'm trying to... And every one of you, no, listen. Respectfully what I'm saying. It's not soft like you've got your little muscles. You're soft because of the decisions you made. So now you're soft in the system because remember, you can't kill people for nothing. It doesn't make sense. You can't do it. It's not even about what do you tell them? If I had my way, this is me, listen. I'll tell you what I'll do. If you're thinking about killing someone, no, I can't say. Listen, just go to the army. Go to the army. That question is so disgusting. Even anyone killing, you don't take lives in it. There's mistakes have been made. Remember, I'm telling you, because a lot of them mistakes, but my message can't be that nice, innit? I don't promote it. So I just don't promote it. So my thing is, you've gone mad. That's it. I don't care. There's a... them ones that, you know what I'm trying to say? And if we talk about the reasons behind pulling an action like that, you've got to take care. You might as well just do... And even then, you have to decide. Understand, I'm wishing that on me, but you remember someone has to pull up your whole foot, you know what I'm saying? Everyone must not be on the earth for you to make a decision like that. Where they've took out about 29,000 of your generations, and even then you might think about it, because they're not even going to consider that. You've got to sit down. That's it. So remember, not joking, man. It's so sad. That topic is sad.
And I can't even understand, I don't even, I don't get it. That's all I can tell you, brother, for that generation, come on, man. And then you gotta remember, there's no next generation after you then. There's no next generation. You take it and you ain't given life, and then you're gonna go and sit down in your room, come on, man, so that one, just think before you act, man. And remember, I'm not the best deliverer of what I'm trying to say, because I've made mistakes, but I would never make them mistakes. Never say, well, I know, no, I don't know you, I don't have no history. Even I do know you, I've definitely no history with you. So, yeah, and I don't know if you've got a message, that's madness, they're kids, innit, what are you gonna do, man? You're not kids, you ain't even living, so let me not ramble here, man, because I don't know what's going through your head. Them as well inside, the ones that got sentenced from the age of 14, and then they turn 21 and they end up in the prison I was in. And, I don't know, man, most of them, it's like they don't care. The ones who do care, I mean, you can see in the faces of the one who care, because there's regret, but the ones who don't care, it's like nothing, and they're doing the same thing inside what they're doing on the out. Stabbings, killings, same thing. In the prisons. In the prisons. Swell side, which they call stab side. I've seen so much, but that's another time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, T, respect, yeah, big up. 100%, yeah, big up, thank you for listening, yeah. And people are gonna get more, much more. This is just the icing on the cake. Tip of the iceberg, you say, yeah, that's the icing means it's finished. But yeah, go on, thank you for listening.
